Between Ourselves

Setting out for the day on Tuesday, I tuned into Radio 4’s Between Ourselves where Olivia O’Leary chaired a conversation between Tony Little, Etonian headteacher of Eton, and Michael Wilkins, headteacher of “turned around” Outwood Grange – a huge comprehensive school in Wakefield. Concerned that a fruitless comedy of awkwardness would ensue, I was surprised at the positive and resonant exchange which followed. In truth, I should have expected more, given that both are committed to ensuring the nourishment of those in their care. Interestingly, both felt that despite lengthy commitment to their establishments, they would soon be forgotten and “rightly so.” This Zen-like embrace of the inevitable closed a captivating 30 minutes. You can listen again here until Tue 21st Oct.