Anarchy, State & Utopia

Would you be tempted to plug into the experience machine?

Why does Nozick think you shouldn’t?

What do you understand by the term Ethical Hedonism?

How does Nozicks example indicate that ethical hedonism is false?

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  1. I would not be tempted to plug into the machine because once you did it you couldn’t get out of it.

    Nozick suggests that we shouldn’t do it because firstly, we want to do things rather than just experience of doing things.
    Secondly, if our lives our programmed we cannot be the people we want to be, we can’t be kind or loving or witty or have any sort of personality.
    Thirdly he suggests that we shouldn’t do it because it would limit us to fake world.

    Ethical hedonism is making rules purely to preserve pleasure and reduce pain for the individual involved.
    Ethical Hedonism is false because because rules aren’t followed because something is wrong or right, only because people want to have pleasure.

  2. 1)No i wouldn’t like to plug in to the machine

    2)because he believes that everyone wants to be a certain way and do certain things in life and just have an experience of doing them but to have the experience if thinking we have done them.

    3)making rules to preserve themselves to get pleasure

    4) he shows this by your fallowing rules for your pleasure not for the right reasons

  3. 1. I would not be tempted to plug into the experience machine, because it masks reality and releases people from a true life.

    2. He thinks that we want to do certain things and not just have the experience of doing them. He also thinks that we want to be a certain sort of person and that someone floating in a tank is an indeterminate blob. Plugging into an experience machine limits us man-made reality, to a world no deeper or more important than that which people can construct. Nozick thinks that plugging into the machine is like committing suicide.

    3. The view that individuals engage in moral behaviour, such as altruism, because it provides some personal advantage.

    4. Your not fallowing the rule to be good but simply to chase pleasure which is fake because that’s not reality.

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  4. I wouldn’t like to be plugged into the machine because I don’t understand how you could possibly have the same quality of relationships with people. I wouldn’t like the idea you cannot improve as a person, because it would seem so pointless. I wouldn’t like to have everything planned because you wouldn’t be able to achieve anything, or leave anything to chance. Good things would also lose their value as you wouldn’t experience much bad stuff, so you wouldn’t appreciate it in the same way.

    Nozick suggest we shouldn’t firstly because some things in life we want to actually do, not just experience them. Also there’s the idea some personality is lost if it is all done by computers, the person plugged in is not a type of person, and cannot change themselves which is something people aspire to be able to do. And finally that people wouldn’t have the same depth, and experiences would be limited to that of a man made machine.

    Ethical Hedonism the belief that the pursuit of pleasure is good providing that it honors another’s pursuit of the same

    Nozicks example indicates that ethical hedonism is false because it’s completely selfish way of living, and that the pleasure can be felt without anyone else benefiting.

  5. 1. I would be tempted if i wouldn’t remember what life was life before i went in.
    2. Because it limits us to a fake reality where nothing is meaningful.
    3. It is hedonism with laws that make what you do respect what others want.

  6. Would you be tempted to plug into the experience machine?

    No, i would not be tempted in any way to plug into the experience machine. This is because i feel there would be no sense of accomplishment or appreciation in anything i do. Even though i would be unaware of this when plugged into the machine, i would not knowingly allow myself to be put into such a state. If in the machine all i experienced was positive experiences, i would no longer appreciate them as i would in real life as in real life i have negative ones also which make the postive ones a greater quality.

    Why does Nozick think you shouldn’t?

    Nozick things that we shouldn’t plug ourselves in because as people we want to do certain things and not just simply have the experience of doing them. We wish to have the experience of having done something rather then only thinking we have done so. He also says that if we plug ourselves into the experience machine then we are no longer our own person. One cannot know what someone is really like out of the machine as their personality has been moulded by the programmer. He says that plugging into the machine is a sort of suicide. Lastly, he says that by submitting to such a fate we have no actually reality and no deeper meaning to life. We are simply living in a man made reality that has no real worth.

    What do you understand by the term Ethical Hedonism?
    Hedonism is a term that determines ‘good’ or ‘bad’ pleasures. Ethical hedonism is the belief that the pursuit of pleasure is good providing that it honors another pursuit of the same.

    How does Nozick’s example indicate that ethical hedonism is false?
    Nozick’s example indicates that ethical hedonism is actually false as even if the pleasures one is receiving are perceived as ‘good’, they are not real and therefore are regarded as ‘bad’ which cancels out the idea of ethical hedonism.

  7. Would you be tempted to plug into the experience machine?
    I would not be plugged into the machine because I think that you would not get any personal achievement from anything you did. The thought that everything you do is fake would ruin the experience.
    Why does Nozick think you shouldn’t?
    Nozick suggests we should not be plugged in because, for the first reason, he believes we want to do certain things not just for the experience which we would not get if we were plugged into the machine. Secondly, by being plugged you are being programmed to be a certain person which a lot of people would not agree with as everyone has an idea of a certain person they want to be. Thirdly, if you are plugged into the machine it limits you to a man-made reality which results in you having no experience in the real world.
    What do you understand by the term Ethical Hedonism?
    – Ethical hedonism is when you agree to things just because it is better off for yourself.
    How does Nozicks example indicate that ethical hedonism is false?
    – His example indicates that ethical hedonism is false because the feeling of accomplishment is all false when you are plugged into the machine which means you are not gaining an personal achievement.

  8. Would you be tempted to plug into the experience machine?
    I wouldn’t be tempted to be plugged into the experience machine. This is because I think that knowing everything was fake would ruin the experience in itself. Since everything your experiencing wasn’t true, then the sense of achievement would be lost.

    Why does Nozick think you shouldn’t?
    Nozick suggests that we should not be plugged into the machine for three different reasons. First of he believes its not just the experience that matters, its the action of that experience and knowing you’ve actually done it. His second reason is because there is no true way of knowing what people are like in the machine. We want ourselves to be a certain way, a certain type of person. Therefore, how can we know the people within the machine are the type of person they seem to be. Thirdly, by plugging yourself into the experience machine you are limiting yourself into a man – made reality. Even though the experience is being stimulated, there is no actual contact with any deep reality than that experience.

    What do you understand by the term Ethical Hedonism?
    Ethical Hedonism is when you agree to do something just to gain a personal advantage.

    How does Nozicks example indicate that ethical hedonism is false?
    Nozicks’ example indicates that ethical hedonism is false because the experiences aren’t actually real then the pleasure is fake too – therefore you aren’t actually gaining a personal advantage because the experience is fake.

  9. 1. Would you be tempted to plug into the experience machine?

    Personally I wouldn’t want to, because it would mean that everything would be pre-determined, and you would know that any relationships you have with people or other things would be false. You couldn’t discover anything that has not already been discovered, as the world you live in would have been manufactured my humans. If everything went the way you wanted it to any pleasurable experiences would become boring as you’d be so used it it. In a way it could be a positive thing if your real life was really terrible, a manufactured world might be your only chance to live with some degree of happiness.

    2. Why does Nozick think you shouldn’t?

    Nozick thinks you shouldn’t because it would be impossible to have any contact with anything real, even if it can be stimulated. He also thinks that most people would prefer to actually do things, rather just think that they had experienced them. Finally, you would not be able to be a real person – all you would be is a body in a tank, with no personality.

    3. What do you understand by the term Ethical Hedonism?

    Ethical hedonism is the idea that you should only be concerned with your own self interests. They behave morally only because it provides them with a personal advantage.

    4. How does Nozicks example indicate that ethical hedonism is false?

    The ‘experience machine’ example proves that ethical hedonism is false because if experiences inside the machine are false then they cannot be regarded as morally right or wrong as no real consequences come of them. Inside the machine they could still act badly but have good experiences come of them if there are no morals, so ethical hedonism cannot apply.

  10. 1. I would not be tempted to ‘plug in’ to the dream machine. Due to it being a whole fake world made to fit around you. I could claim that i had been to the Niagra falls in this state but I haven’t really experienced it.

    2. Nozick suggests that we should not plug in due to experiencing something is different to doing it. Another reason is that if we are just plugged into this machine we are just an ‘indeterminate blob’, we cannot tell anything about this person when they are in the tank, are they loving? caring? affectionate? We cannot tell.

    3. Ethical Hedonism is the idea that people partake in certain actions in order to gain some form of pleasure.

    didnt have time to do 4 due to safari quitting on me

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